S20 Build 38 - Release

S20 Build 38 - Release

Hiya Folks, expect Release versions of 38 for all platforms over the next 24hours :)

This version fixes the chat and IM log mess, all .txt files again. After some testing a significant vector for crashing was discovered in the test version ( this has been plugged ) pending an improved fix.

Altair has been working on the linux version which should be out shortly with much much improved stability and performance.

OK THIS IS IMPORTANT!!!

After feedback from AMD users, this version on windows comes with 3 flavours of S20J, the KL version of openJpeg. Safe, Normal and Extreme.

By default the viewer uses the 'Normal' SSE2 version. The 'Safe' version has no tweaks at all, but is still newer than the LL variant. The 'Extreme' version is built against hardware, via intels compiler so will work ONLY for dualies and quads of intel origin. The difference between Safe to Extreme can be as much as 2 secs per scene.

To use any particular flavour go into the program folder and rename the decoder of choice openJPEG.dll.

Notifications have been fixed for all languages, and a shed load of testing anyway this version should give good performance and be much more stable in busy areas.

Much Love and Respect, KL

43 Comments

  1. Micah Giha - September 21, 2010 at 17:46 Reply

    Awesome! So far no crashes with either of my AMD machines like the test build (38)... FPS is a little higher than (37)... Big news for me is that I can use 2/4/8X AA with lighting and shadows now!!! YAY!! (still goes grey if I turn on GI, but that's not a deal breaker by any means)

  1. Cincia Singh - September 21, 2010 at 18:32 Reply

    Ty, ty, ty. I can't wait to get home in 5-1/2 hours and give it a test drive with the extreme version turned on.

  1. Nolo - September 21, 2010 at 18:42 Reply

    extreme seems to work here with my system

    AMD Phenom II X4 965
    4gb Ram
    ATI Radeon HD4850

    OpenGL is 3.3 at the 10.6 Version of Catalyst

  1. Micah Giha - September 21, 2010 at 19:48 Reply

    The extreme version of the DLL is working on both of my AMD machines too (KL must know that the best way to get volunteers to test it is to tell us that it wouldn't work!) My machines are: AMD Phenom II X4 955 (3.2GHz), 4GB, 5770 and Win7 64; and AMD Athlon X2 5600+ (2.8GHz), 6GB, 4770 and Win7 64.

  1. Niran - September 21, 2010 at 20:35 Reply

    seems to work for me too , AMD Phenom II X4 965
    4GB RAM
    Geforce GTX 460
    WIndows 7 Home Premium 64x

  1. Kirstenlee - September 21, 2010 at 20:46 Reply

    Well seems I did something right ^^ makes a note for future builds :)

  1. Mondy - September 21, 2010 at 22:02 Reply

    first observation,working great.Noticed transpareny is gone in all panels except my friends and when detached it can't be shrunk past the default size. Which is a shame as I was recommending people shrink it down in near me mode and place it in the corner to use as a radar substitute

  1. Niran - September 21, 2010 at 22:40 Reply

    actually you CAN shrink it , you have to move your cursor in the right upper corner of the floater NOT in the lower corner!

    • Mondy - September 22, 2010 at 12:59 Reply

      Really ? think I said it can't be shrunk PAST a certain size. It's nowhere near the level you could shrink the window previously. Kirstenlee has already explained why it's been change in group IM.

  1. Kris - September 21, 2010 at 23:19 Reply

    hmm for some reason i cant change my clothes or skin lol is that one of the side effects to the temp texlayer crash fix? anyone else can change? :S

  1. Altair - September 21, 2010 at 23:34 Reply

    @Kris: ppl around you see you with right dresses?

  1. RL66 - September 22, 2010 at 0:42 Reply

    extreme love my computer so much... i am in love of the viewer

  1. Alto - September 22, 2010 at 0:44 Reply

    Please excuse the stupid question but is it possible to compile a build using the AMD compiler instead of the Intel to better support the quad cores from AMD.

  1. Kris - September 22, 2010 at 1:04 Reply

    @Altair, yea they see me just fine, but i still cannot change my appearance seems, skin and clothing wise even after logging wearing it. If i go back to a older build everything works just fine.

  1. Altair - September 22, 2010 at 1:30 Reply

    from previous version you can do a check.... tp in a empty place (or your home), take off *ALL* (tp friends if you want meanwhile ;) ), give a "clear cache" and logoff.

    login again (after few mins, don't force the login) and open inventory, search somethign to resync it from Linden asset, when counter on top of window stop wear again.

    this should work (and should be done everytime you change viewer

  1. Kris - September 22, 2010 at 1:47 Reply

    i tried all of that already, does not work. Only a older version of the viewer works perfect.

  1. Kurakins - September 22, 2010 at 2:15 Reply

    i run on an AMD and I didn't even have problems with the test build of 38.. just for note :)

  1. mel_yeuxdoux - September 22, 2010 at 3:44 Reply

    Many thanks, to both Kirsten and Altair. I look forward to trying out the Linux version.

  1. Beponka - September 22, 2010 at 10:42 Reply

    Same problem here with my skin and my clothes. I can't change it. The strange thing is that my skin, when I wear it appears with my tatoo even if I don't wear it :O
    I took off all, cleared the cache, relogged after 5 or 6 mins (different times)...still the same problem.

  1. Altair - September 22, 2010 at 10:45 Reply

    Please when report this kind of problem report too operating system and which DLL are you using

  1. Beponka - September 22, 2010 at 11:34 Reply

    SO: Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit
    Memory: 3958 MB
    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 430 @ 2.27GHz, 2.27GHz
    Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GT 320M (driver release: 258.96)
    Version 70.16.5b.0.2

    • Beponka - September 22, 2010 at 14:06 Reply

      Anyway I tried all 3 DLLs (standars, safe and extreme) and there are still the same problem with my clothes and skin.

  1. Niran - September 22, 2010 at 16:22 Reply

    @ Beponka , same problem for me here, not changing clothes and skins , seems like Rebaking of textures doesnt work at all , changing the skin and then open the Edit my Shape seems to rebake the skin but not clothes, Rebake Combination and Option itself doesnt work too

  1. Nolo - September 22, 2010 at 16:39 Reply

    Can Confirm the Bug,

    Checked with all DLL except the old llkdu.

    System: Windows 7 X64
    CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965
    Ram: 4Gb DDR3
    GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4850
    OpenGL: 3.3

  1. Emmie - September 22, 2010 at 17:29 Reply

    I am having the same problem with skins and clothes not changing right. Rebaking doesn't help or work. I deleted all the cache files restarted by pc came back in and the skin i was wearing finally fully rezzed was no longer half newbie skin. BUT all of my other skins will not change if i try to wear them. also can not see full profiles nor can i scroll down the profile to see the person's groups.

    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista 32-bit Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
    Graphics Card: GeForce 8500 GT/PCI/SSE2
    OpenGL Version: 3.3.0
    Ram : 6 gigs

  1. Patience Porta - September 22, 2010 at 19:22 Reply

    I am unable to see the tag that I am wearing, and I am wearing it for I checked. I went in and deleted the user setting and relogged back into SL and this did not correct the situation. Is anybody else having this problem?

  1. Siobhan Taylor - September 22, 2010 at 21:07 Reply

    I have the changing clothes issue too...

    CPU: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60 (2003.55 MHz)
    Memory: 3936 MB
    OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit (Build 7600)
    Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
    Graphics Card: GeForce 8400M GS/PCI/SSE2

    Windows Graphics Driver Version: 8.17.0012.5896
    OpenGL Version: 3.3.0

    libcurl Version: libcurl/7.20.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
    J2C Decoder Version: S20J: 2.0.1, Version: 2.0.2
    Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3.750000
    Qt Webkit Version: 4.6 (version number hard-coded)
    Voice Server Version: Vivox 3.1.0001.8821

  1. Patience Porta - September 22, 2010 at 22:43 Reply

    uhm never mind on my problem i fixed it - was my doing - blushes hotly

  1. Marlena - September 22, 2010 at 23:12 Reply

    OK, so I'm clueless..where are the decoders, and how do i know which I want??

  1. Altair - September 22, 2010 at 23:56 Reply

    decoder for what? O_o

  1. Patience Porta - September 23, 2010 at 0:14 Reply

    going back to build 37 - i cannot wear clothes in this build - they wont attach - i did a total clean install - i remove everytihng - here are my specs below:

    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (2394 MHz)
    Memory: 3070 MB
    OS Version: Microsoft Windows Vista 32-bit Service Pack 2 (Build 6002)
    Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
    Graphics Card: GeForce 8600 GT/PCI/SSE2

    Windows Graphics Driver Version: 7.15.0011.8250
    OpenGL Version: 3.0.0

    libcurl Version: libcurl/7.20.1 OpenSSL/0.9.8j zlib/1.2.3
    J2C Decoder Version: S20J: 2.0.1, Version: 2.0.2
    Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3.750000
    Qt Webkit Version: 4.6 (version number hard-coded)
    Voice Server Version: Vivox 3.1.0001.8821

    Built with MSVC version 1400
    Packets Lost: 37/108,300 (0.0%)

  1. Elisha - September 23, 2010 at 1:20 Reply

    @altair: I also tried this and it does not work. My skin and clothing always revert back.

  1. Marlena - September 23, 2010 at 2:05 Reply

    these..
    By default the viewer uses the 'Normal' SSE2 version. The 'Safe' version has no tweaks at all, but is still newer than the LL variant. The 'Extreme' version is built against hardware, via intels compiler so will work ONLY for dualies and quads of intel origin. The difference between Safe to Extreme can be as much as 2 secs per scene.

    To use any particular flavour go into the program folder and rename the decoder of choice openJPEG.dll.

  1. mopar Barnes - September 23, 2010 at 2:46 Reply

    Kirstens S20 2.1.2 (38) Sep 21 2010 19:49:10 (Kirstens S20)
    Release Notes

    CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz (1600 MHz)
    Memory: 5975 MB
    OS Version: Linux 2.6.35-22-generic #33-Ubuntu SMP Sun Sep 19 20:32:27 UTC 2010 x86_64
    Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
    Graphics Card: GeForce 9600 GSO/PCI/SSE2

    OpenGL Version: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 256.53

    libcurl Version: libcurl/7.20.1 OpenSSL/0.9.7c zlib/1.2.3.3 c-ares/1.7.1
    J2C Decoder Version: S20J: 1.3.0, Version: 1.3.0
    Audio Driver Version: OpenAL, version 1.1 ALSOFT 1.12.854 / OpenAL Community / OpenAL Soft: PulseAudio Software
    Qt Webkit Version: 4.6 (version number hard-coded)
    Voice Server Version: Not Connected
    Built with GCC version 40405

    Ubuntu 10.10 Beta 64bit with only the 32bit libs I needed for Kirstens and openBVE. Vid card is a 9600GSO 768gb card, no tweaks. Runs SWEEEEET...... I get a ticking in the graphics after TP for a few but mainly if I start from terminal, it is almost gone if I run without a terminal open. Skin and clothing problem here too. I get around it by going in and out of Appearance and waiting a few secs in between til my cloths stay correct. If I go to fast they switch back. All else is great, fps in the 70's to 90's depending on where I am.

  1. WerewolfOfTheWater - September 23, 2010 at 3:38 Reply

    It seems like this viewer keeps getting buggier with every release. The moment I updated my pants textures absolutely refuse to load. I've tried everything. I cleared the cache multiple times, went into appearance mode, rebaked textures, relogged, took off the clothes and put them back on, everything.

    Please make it less buggy...

  1. Danridar Frederick - September 23, 2010 at 7:59 Reply

    Ah glad to see I'm not the only one, I was just coming to check if anyone else had the skin/clothes problem.
    OS: Windows Vista Home Premium SP2 (Build #6002) CPU: AMD Phenom 9550 Quad-Core,  2.20 GHz, 512 KB Video: ATI Radeon HD 4850 (1024x768x32bpp 60Hz) Sound: Speakers (Realtek High Definiti Memory: Used: 3205/7934MB Uptime: 14h 17m 1s HD Space: Free: 107.08 GB/465.76 GB Connection: D-Link WUA-2340 USB Adapter @ 54.0 Mbps (Rec: 1136.89MB Sent: 77.16MB)

    I was just using what came out of the tin

  1. Altair - September 23, 2010 at 13:58 Reply

    Hold on, fix on the way ;)

  1. Patience Porta - September 25, 2010 at 3:10 Reply

    Kirsten and all who help, wanted to say how much I appreciate all you do!!! Kirstens is " MY" Viewer and has been for some time. Sure I might go peek at Linden viewer from time to time, but most my play time is right here. It's the best viewer out there. So thank you all for what you do, You are appreciated!!!!! Patience

  1. mel_yeuxdoux - September 25, 2010 at 11:46 Reply

    Installation has changed. Rather than just extracting an archive, it's a shell script. That's all well and good, but, when I ran it, it complained about not being able to find /etc/refresh_desktop_app_entry.sh. That looked like the last thing it did, so I tried running it by hand. If it was supposed to add it to my menu, it didn't work; I couldn't find it... though perhaps that's cached somehow and I should log out and back in for it to show up. I can run it by hand, or create my own launcher on the panel for that matter, so it's not a big deal.

  1. mel_yeuxdoux - September 25, 2010 at 12:29 Reply

    Oops... that's what I get for trying to enclose something in less than and greater than. That should have been [my home directory]/Kirsten_20/etc/refresh_desktop_app_entry.sh

  1. rebeca dembo - September 25, 2010 at 16:42 Reply

    im very angry and mad with kristen,
    WTH is crash me so damn bad when i do shadows? till now everything was damn OK!
    but now is crash me so bad!
    WHY!?

  1. Mabb Dilweg - September 27, 2010 at 7:36 Reply

    the rebake issue is not confined to Kirsten's it seems. Happening to people using other viewers also. But not to me... go figure!

  1. Elei - September 27, 2010 at 12:46 Reply

    on windows: baking issue when editing appearance, I get stuck without clothe layer, and newbie skin

    on linux: takes awhile for the viewer to load, messes up the sound system making my computer mute until i reboot

    Windows 7, 64 Bit / Ubuntu 10.04, 32 Bit
    Intel Core 2 Quad @ 2.8ghz
    GeForce GTS 250 1gb
    4gb RAM

    Using pulseaudio on linux.

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